Visit bona.com for additional product information. You keep thinking they are going to go out of style, but they dont! And while I understand how a top Hamptons real estate broker could tire of seeing white floors, it seems that the general public cant get enough of them. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. Also, if you want your oak floors to be as light as possible (and the least yellow), this is the best option. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. Thank you Manifico. The wood is from Cochrans Lumber in Berryville, VA. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. A red oak floor does not need sealant. Learn More. We used Bona Traffic HD Semi Gloss. Microfiber Multi-Surface Flat Mop Floor Care Kit. Nordic seal has white pigments. They are available to answer questions and address any job-site issues related to hardwood floors. White Oak Floors Why You'll Love Them Red Oak Versus White Oak White Oak Engineered Flooring Sand and Stain Wide Plank Oak Flooring Caring for a White Oak Floor Shop Our Favorites It may come in other thicknesses too. We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. Is the Nordic still a problem? TO GRAY OR NOT TO GRAY? The lightest one on the left is NordicSeal. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. Privacy Policy. Its also a faster process, so youll be out of your house for a shorter period of time. Thanks so much in advance!! The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. Most pros can mix any option for sample purposes. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? My tub with quartz top. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). The above picture is a beautiful whitewashed floor done by Gands Hardwood Floors (Thank you Sye) in East Boston , Mass. It will make you happy. White Oak is a fabulous choice for seaside homes, modern farmhouse styles, and contemporary dcor. If so, feel free to buy me a coffee and support my blog. Once I got down to bare wood, I did 36, 60 and 80 grit. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, White too bright in your kitchen? The floor guys made custom floor vents. Third: It is not easy to remove to correct flaws like, idk, t-bar marks. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! I used Bona Nordic seal (1 coat) on my 1st floor and was really happy with the results. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! It goes down like a stain, and is as hard to take out as a stain, except it's a just faint white, so when you're on your hands and knees, or with a light coating of sawdust, you can't see it. Their attention to detail. Rift only wood flooring has been incredibly popular in white oak for years. Look forward to more pictures. To this end, the BEST water borne polyurethane is Bona Traffic HD. Source: elsesun.com. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. (Side shower walls are white). Here on Long Island, its true, we execute White on White over and over again, because of its easy, breezy, beachy look. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. In addition, Bona Traffic is environmentally friendly. (See oil vs water based polyurethane). You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. I have a loft area with newish southern yellow pine. Not sure how long to wait before using them? (watch the video and youll see how the red oak looksif you want it lighter/white then bleach them). Carmen No you cant. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. Please note that wood is a natural product and this sealer, as well as other sealers, stains and polyurethane will come out different pending on the species of wood you have (esp red oak vs white oak), grade and cut of wood, as well as age of wood. We went ahead installing rest of the house about 2500sqft and refinished the whole 4000 sqft with 2 coats bona nordic seal. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. But test everything. Bona NordicSeal is a great looking and environmentally friendly product. Heres a photo of our family room. That makes SOOOO much sense. Think twice before Bona Natural or Bona Nordic Seal. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. 2) Bona White (is this different then nordic seal) or Bona DriFast White stain? I recently moved into a 1950s bi-level with builder-grade red oak flooring with 65 years of finish on it (did not appear to have ever been sanded). Pine. Lastly, over any White stain or light sealer, it is important to use a crystal-clear, non-yellowing finish. T-bar Natural Seal or Nordic Seal is a minimum two person job. Pine has a very yellow base tone that improves greatly with bleaching, so if the plan is to go White with Pine, you should plan to bleach it first before applying the white stain. Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. In the Gallery below, all photos display 2 coats Bona Nordic Seal on unbleached Red Oak. Bottom row displays an in progress renovation at a mid-century home in Dix Hills, NY. The longer a gallon of finish is out of our control, the less we know about how it was handled and stored. Thanks so much! @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. 16 ratings. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. Not the best lighting. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. I cannot find any locally. They bring in wood from various locations. the right polyurethane). Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Also, in this article I share several pictures that have a very similar look to Bona NordicSeal, but they are pre-finished woods. For example, is it worth testing bleach followed by Nordic Seal? 2 coats sealer is fine, but not 2 coats stain. can you get this awesome Scandinavian wood floor look with solid Brazilian cherry? If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. We will have 3500 sq of wood and certainly dont want problems. You can use Bona Nordic Seal for a white finish or Bona NaturalSeal for the raw wood look. Our clients love the light tan, creamy beige tones of White Oak, and so they choose this species over and over again. test, test, test. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. It doesn't make sense. What other kind of wood flooring looks good finished White? I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). I love using it for lightly whitewashed hardwood floor look. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. NOTE: You do NOT need a sealer if youve applied a stain. It is a cool product to pay someone to apply for you, but the difference in appearance between NaturalSeal and ClassicSeal (which doesn't contain pigment) isn't significant enough to me to justify the complications involved in working with NaturalSeal. I applied using a T-bar, with which I wasn't super familiar. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. Would you recommend 2 coast Bona NordicSeal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD in extra Matte Or Bona Natura? This Trend Seems to See No End! Unbleached Rustic Grade Red Oak + 1 coat Bona White stain & Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte. Its perfect for scandanavian style hardwood, as well as Farmhouse style decor and modern looks. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. Many contractors are not familiar with these floors and how to get the right look, so I will share the best products to use. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Any area where you leave a slightly thicker coat of NordicSeal will appear whiter because there is more pigment layered on that spot. But, Bona NordicSeal is a nice clean and upscale lookwithout all the dangerous chemicals and fumes. All photos feature our own work and are property of Valenti Flooring, Inc. Its best not to expect perfection with Red Oak flooring & bleaching, and definitely best to do test samples before deciding on anything! The most coats of White stain we have ever done on a floor was 3, though this is not for an amateur to attempt because the stain can start to look cloudy! 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. These are all products we use. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. Thanks again! Because we ship this product from Minnesota, there will be some days when simply cant ship this product until weather conditions improve. They also show you what the product looks like on red oak as well as white oak. The tectono-stratigraphy of the Emmie Bluff/Oak Dam IOCG deposits: Exploring step-change ideas to expedite discovery. When it comes to hardwood flooring, our wood floor consultants have seen it all. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? These floors are light and refreshing, and very easy to maintain. A perfect choice for this gut renovation and a great anchor for transitional style. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. London life ith around 35 years of living in the capital, W Michelle is now a bona fide Londoner who thrives on the diversity and convenience of the city. ! The best white stain we've found is Bona White . Take a look at the gallery belowAll photos are of White Oak flooring with either 1 or more coats of White stain. Here are our raw floors right now. How would you suggest we cancel out the red/pink and achieve this look? How are you liking it so far? I wish we had white oak though. Is the haze from the white that is in the sealer or the matte finish, or both? I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. How about a good before and after to see transition from Dark to Light? Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. Person as author : Doumas, Christos In : History of humanity: scientific and cultural development, v.II: From the third millennium to the seventh century B.C., p. 146-151 Language : English Also available in : Also available in : Franais Year of publication : 1996 Should a distributor be able to walk me through using this product for more details? 2 coats White stain on unbleached Red Oak makes for a more intense white color. White stain on wide plank White Oak has continued to be one the most requested finishes and species for our region of Long Island for new construction and gut renovations. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. White floors are chic, clean, and bright. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. @Moran Blueshtein. Is there something that can be done to replace some planks that are not good quality? They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. I happen to like the warm tones of a Red Oak floor in a country home or summer cottage. Along with the BONA Traffic HD (to reduce yellowing), of course . Before: (don't judge the living room-- the couch is on backorder! FAR RIGHT The Royal Oak is a handsome corner pub and local institution. Custom Home Floor Plan + Elevation Advice on Coastal House. Call the store at 651-698-5888 if you are trying to order in winter and have a tight time deadline. (The Classic has less of a haze.) 9 tips you must read before sanding your hardwood floor, First of all: Prepare yourself, and your floors, Our complete guide to sanding your floors. 2 coats White stain on unbleached Red Oak makes for a more intense white color. Winning the Renovation Game in Westhampton 2 1/4" Rustic Grade Red Oak flooring installed in 1st floor Den and bedroom, weaved into existing flooring. Think clean lines, metal railings, open stairs, black & white accents. I could only post one photo at a time. no stain), an oil based polyurethane will turn your floors yellow, and over time as they are exposed to more UV light and artificial light, they will continue to amberize and turn more yellow. We had this situation at our house. Nice, eh?! See pictures below from our projects in Bellport & Shelter Island! My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. Copyright 2011-2022 | All Rights Reserved. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. You can get more info on the best brands of water based polyurethane here. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! City Floor Supply distributes hardwood and sport floor products and provides customer service. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. Today, most people with Red Oak flooring who want to have White floors express a desire not to see Red, so usually with a white stain, we bleach the Red Oak before we apply the White stain. We DIY-ers. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. I would not do this. It may seem draconian but hear us out. Duraseal is the professional line of Minwax and is what the pros use. This is part and parcel of your payment. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. They have added just enough white pigment to to obscure the background color of the wood you are coating, but not the grain. These are specialty items and are most often used by flooring professionals. The cut-in pad won't necessarily apply the same as your t-bar/roller and will create a noticeable difference in color. I filled a plastic container with 1 qt of water. Unless you can magically push the puddle around the room like the guys on the Bona video, don't use it. Some things to be aware of: bleaching is a hazardous chemical and produces a chemical reaction with the wood. A red oak floor does not need sealant. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). But if we cant resell returns, we lose our already low margin. While Red tones may be more muted with 2 coats, you should still expect to see warm tones coming through. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. Compare The durability is the same, it just has a slightly different look and usually costs a tad more (but not a significant price difference). Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). It has excellent abradability, fast dry times and reduces the potential for sidebonding and tannin bleed. Cookie Notice I would generally recommend Bona Traffic HD as it will give you the best look and highest durablity. While Red tones may be more muted with 2 coats, you should still expect to see warm tones coming through. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? I will post pictures. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. As water borne polyurethane has become more and more popular over the years, and as customers tastes have evolved and more are going for lighter and less yellow looks, Bona diversified their sealer line, and now they have 5 tinted options for sealers (from lightest to darkest): You can see the color of these tinted sealers on the product label. 2023 Petes Hardwood Floors, Inc. All rights reserved. Keep some cardboard or a paint tray nearby to use as a landing pad instead. So, yes, we are firm on 30-day returns on all finish. Qs on Nordic and Bona "haze" ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors PRESIDENTS DAY SALE Up to 80% Off A talented wood flooring craftsperson can make unbleached Red Oak look beautiful with a White stain, and it will look much different than the heavy application of white stain and yellow finish of olden days! In this situation, a sealer is strongly preferred because it gives you a lighter tint and more modern look (while saving you a bit of money at the same time). So whats the big fuss over white floors? Be brave. Do we always have to bleach Red Oak? It also looked like the actual stain in the can had just a tiny bit of a red undertone to it, so red undertone stain on top of red oak isn't really a good combo. Our project starts on Dec 5. What would you recommend for a deeper white washed look? 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