Now we have a church out of a church with new leadership to finally have us on the right foundation. And miracles and everything else, and got anointed by it. He said that he had heard the audible voice of the Lord about my life. Jane Lead and Alice Bailey, occultic mediums, prophesied the IDENTICAL things Jones and BIckle have been promoting for years. The exorcism didnt last. Bob Jones ProphecyKC Chiefs Wins Super Bowl & Revival Sweeps Asbury Campus, Golf Champion Chris Kirk Thanks God And Sobriety After Major Victory, Revival Continues As It Hits Another Secular University. The 1950s reveal the power of God. Students Who Attended Asbury Revival Testify: One Said Its Cool To Be Israel and US Begin Development of Next-Generation Arrow 4 Defense System, Israeli Company Converting Trash into Car Parts of the Future, UN Report Accusing IDF of War Crime on Gaza Border Dismissed as Whitewashing of Hamas Terrorism, A UK Local Council Approves Controversial New Guidelines For Sex Education, Another Campus Revival Breaks Out At Cedarville University. Immortalization for a Melchizedek Priesthood? Don't let Bob's legacy die! But, he says, Im going to minister. And he says, My first task is to get you to believe it. I said, What movement? He said, You dont know nothin, do you? I said, The Lord just told me to come here; I dont know a clue about anything., MB: So Bob Jones comes in..And I remember his first words, as he goes, Ive seen you. And I said, And Ive seen you. And he said, Yeah, I thought you probably would. And what I meant was that I had had a prophecy about a false man that was coming. Ernie Gruen Report p.41 (bob Comes To Kansas City Fellowship) 4. , We need not wonder whether He [Jesus] will come back; HE CANNOT. Your tears are falling on those coals and theyre coming up before Papa. Jones always went first class. This is my Yes to Papa God. His gift was very strong and reliable yet Bob never preferred to be called "Prophet Bob Jones." He was just brother Bob. I saw him a couple of times in the 70s, I didnt understand what it meant, I would just see the white horse(Mike Bickle interjects) The white horse always speaks in Bobs visionsIn his vision it speaks of the corporate purpose that God is bringing to pass (ibid. According to Bob, God revealed to him, in a vision, that revival would come when the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl. But everything he says in this video is twisted and wrong. Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. The 5 fold ministry is found in Eph.4:11 and there is no priesthood mentioned, it is about equipping the church. Jones supposedly could tell Bickle what dreams he was going to have, as well as come to him in his dreams. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. Two nights! Do you need a new Bible or Christian Gifts? Their home in Tampa was valued at $2.22 million and the condo in New York, at $3.5 million. Youre going to be here the rest of your life anyway. Of course, I had no way to interpret that. You stood before the Lord BJ: He was showing me a throne room and He was showing me a seat that I needed to sit in one dayand there was a guide that stood in front of me, and he was like red sunglasses (F88, p.2-3)/, http://www.bobjones.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page= 2020202020Photos202620Bio 27s2020202020 Bob Jones Web Site, When only seven years old and walking on a dirt road in Arkansas; the Arch Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones on a white horse and blew a double silver trumpet in his face. g.The sad irony is that so many of those same mystical experiences and revelations have no support whatsoever from Scripture, and many defy the scriptural record entirely. Bonnie and Lyn did a great job on writing it. Bob Jones is a contemporary prophet with a great love for the Lord Jesus and His truth. But from that time forth my hands worked funny. Every sign and wonder thats ever been will be many times in the last days.They themselves; will be that generation thats raised up to put death itself underneath their feet and to glorify Christ in every way. I said, Five or ten a NIGHT!! Paul Cain, Mike Bickle (and others) are friends to his ministry and were involved in the prophetic movement that entered the Vineyard church under John Wimber and are now part of the new apostolic reformation of Peter Wagner who was friends with Wimber. Bob Jones' prophecy. Evangelistic career. You can heal people and you can prophesy day and night if you want to,if you leave these two subjects alone(Mike Bickle, Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations,1988, found inVengeance is Oursby Al Dager). I did caution Mike Bickle about the strangeness of the prophet at the time. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf, The Ernie Gruen Report (Conversation between Mike Bickle and Bob Jones), 1. The third was Billy Graham on February 21, 2018. And it was like Him and. . Isa 9:15: The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.. Of course both angels and fire have an important part in the revivalism taking place in the church today. There will bepeople standing against you, and the Lord says, Do not answer them, as the Lord Himself will answer them.*Augustine Acula was defrocked a few years later for homosexual activity, and viewed as a false prophet. A demon appeared to me and said if you ever share that prophesy again Ill kill you. And so I told him I dont belong to you anymore, I belong to the lord and Im not afraid of you, you have no, uh, no uh, place to touch me,well he did that day and I went to the Lord in deathandI stood in a line and as I looked to my left there were a lot of people on like a roller and like in a supermarket where they were rolling past and there were a huge number of people on that line. Weeks was also forced to move out of his $2.5 million country club estate. Bob went on to say the word he was remembering said "a wind would blow out of Canada in the Northwest, and it would come and settle in Washington [state]. Offering: We take up a quarterly offering to fund this ministry, and those who use the materials are expected to participate (Galatians 6:6) if they can. His estate included an 11,000-square-foot home near Dallas, a condominium in Florida, a yacht, and other assets worth $90 million. Go kill them or forgive them, Shortly thereafter in 1974 Bob begins having technicolor visions-often between 5 and 10 a night-and supposedly for the next 15 years. 8:20). This is the That is when really inspired-teachers began to rise up and show us a new understanding already of the written word. and they would accept me in their midst. Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen. Write the Vision, Make It Plain, Run With It. (Isaiah 53:5-6, John 6:29, Romans 4:5, First Peter 3:18). We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. When youve got this kind of anointing some of you are already entering that secret place of the Most High. Yes its possible to disqualify ones self from public ministry! CORRECTED BY OTHER MINISTRIES IN KANSAS CITY UNTIL FOUND BY MIKE BICKLE MB: Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people (ROH, p. 7), The accounts given by Bob Jones about being rejected are untrue. You have God's Word and Holy Ghost - from Genesis to Revelation - which is "the MORE sure word of prophecy." 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straweach ones work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 1 Cor. But he is back on earth! And of all things, the doctor. Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. Dager was a pioneer on this subject as he gave a warning of the false prophets that would change the church; the very things we are seeing today. . , December 2015, Bakker agreed with Tom Horns prediction that the Antichrist will come in 2016. , June 3, 1988, p. 5). . The Lost Books Of The Bible: Should We Accept Or Reject? So we are too immature to have prophets be right all the time? Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. For information see: www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. Their only child, Bob Jones, Jr. was born October 19, 1911 in Montgomery, where they made their home. I was inside I didnt have my wires grounded in the basement down there, and I grabbed ahold of the refrigerator, and lightning hit the wires outside, and a great blue flame came in. . When he visited Father Divine in New York, he brought along four valets, four bodyguards, three secretaries, his housekeeper, a hairdresser, three musicians, 60 singers, a personal cook, and a dietitian. Although their parents will reign over them and be the leaders of the last-day church, their children will possess the Spirit without measure. And some of them has never come back to the Lord since then., MB: So. Bob Jones started having prophetic experiences at the age of 7 years old, and continued to have experiences his entire life. It had really grown and looked a lot like Christ. We were involved with the youth leaders, and we even gave them quite a bit of land in Lake Ozarks. How God Directed Dr. Bob Jones III to Remarry. for Oct. 29, 2015, the church is standing with its crooked leaders (City Harvest Founder Kong Hee Thanks Congregation for Grace and Love as Wife Sun Ho Is Ordained as Pastor, Oct. 29, 2015). .until he met Mike Bickle. For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. You are the one that cursed the leadership. Prophecy Of Bob Jones Is Happening. Theres some prayers thats gone on here that the answer is yes. Now 2000 years ago the Savior was revealed. Vision of the Apple TreeBy Bob JonesJanuary 2014. When you drink enough, you become possessedI become possessed (F89, p. 29), 3. The people and pastor grew weary of this continuous and wearisome foretelling of earthquakes and tragedies coming until I, as pastor and shepherd of the sheep, asked Bob Jones to come with me and another pastor to my study to counsel him. Like Daniel who functioned at an incredible level, Bob has often told leaders their dreams and experiences, as well . Before Gods Spirit is actually poured out in Israel and then to the world there is another spirit that will increase to bring in the false Christ, that will be empower people to do great signs and wonders by neglecting doctrine. The 5th edition of this book, November 2014, is significantly enlarged and revised throughout. All we ask is that you give proper credit. They said, We dont want you here again. They cast him out, and within weeks the immorality in the leadership took place and the people leftleft their spouses of the church, so seven young people under 30 die in six weeks. MB: =Mike BickleWell, I believe our history is deeply tied up, in a human sense, to Bob JonesAnd I believe that Gods goodness towards us, giving us this history, began when the Lord separated Bob Jones many, many years ago. Youre already bowing down to that altar of incense. Its when I got saved, I started knowin the Lord. ALLEGED SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN HIS EARLY DAYS (which had a reverse effect of causing him to run wholeheartedly into sin) BJ: =Bob Jones ..When I was about nine years old, I was walking down a dusty road in the middle of summer in Arkansas. Will and Judy Pliska, ages 31 and perhaps 29; died in the fall of 1976. Ironically, after hearing Bob tell of these visions, Mike Bickles first reaction was that of being absolutely certain that he was a false prophet:MB: So Bob Jones comes in andof course, I was looking for a false prophet and he looked like one to me. During this time period there was a group called Grace Ministries ministerial team which consisted of Paul Cain, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, David Parker, Jim Goll, Francis Frangipane and Mike Bickle that were of the former the Kansas City Fellowship (that became the Metro Vineyard of Kansas City). And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. Establishing and confirming divine truth (Gods written Word) in His saints, for their edification and equipping, and preaching the convicting Law and saving Gospel to lost souls. I whole heartedly agree with all gospel action, but signs are not being scrutinized, prophecies and many prophets are not being examined. Bonnie moves in a seer prophetic gifting as well as healing and miracles. Bob and Bonnie Jones Ministry. Dr. Bob Jones Jr. went home to be with the Lord on November 12, 1997. Hebrews 1: IN TIMES PAST, God spoke to the fathers through the prophets. Two nights! Your email address will not be published. Another pastor in Kansas City, went to Mike with concerns about Bob, when he learned that Bob was now at Mikes church, because Bob had formerly been with him. magazine found that two of the people that the Bentley ministry had reported as examples of his best healings had died of their diseases (Heal or Heel,, reported that police suspected drug overdose and that an envelope of white powder believed to be narcotics was found on Tims, but his mother is fighting in court to have the record sealed, claiming that his cause of death would be an embarrassment to her, his children, her grandchildren and his congregation.. Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. We ask You to mature it. We dont take it as serious in the early days as we will in the days to come(Media Spotlight- THE RESTORATION OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS AND THE KANSAS CITY- VINEYARD CONNECTION byAlbert James Dager). So I knew instantly, the first minute he prophesied his acceptance; so I knew he was the false prophetno question in my mind.(P.His, p. 14), Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. . and they would accept me in their midst. Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen. Derek was going over the Conference and talking about where we were going. I wholeheartedly agree with the conclusions you presented in your letter. Early years. For the first time in history we have a woman angel working inside the church bringing signs to the. . That is a lie. Transcribed by Sandy Warner,www.thequickenedword.com). but also there was a pull of the youth into immorality, drugs, and alcohol. We were involved with the youth leaders, and we even gave them quite a bit of land in Lake Ozarks. Your email address will not be published. But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. Hinn also admitted that he and his wife had been separated for years. .And now my government is in place, and in a time of great stress I shall bring forth my next step, for Toronto was a step, Brownsville was another step; My next step will be my glory, and signs like you have never seen before. No one in my background had ever heard the audible voice of God. December 28, and as usual in the presence of this prophet I brought my iphone and recorded the conversation. Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. 2Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. . In 1991, Swaggart was again in hot water when police in Indio, California, stopped him on a traffic violation and found that the woman riding with him was a prostitute. One plague was influenza while the other was like influenza in nature. Though Bickle was, at first, skeptical of Jones-and even wondered if Jones was a false prophet-he became convinced that Jones was a true prophet when Jones accurately predicted a snowfall on March 21, 1983, after several weeks of unseasonably warm . Naturally I rejected the prophesy as being false & was in turn rejected by them for being false. My hands turned blue, and then they turned purple. Bonnie was at his side. Transcribed by Sandy Warner, www.thequickenedword.com The following is the Word of the Lord through prophet Bob Jones with Todd Bentley at the Lakeland Florida revival, 5/13/08 evening service, via God TV. Jones even states There is a ministry after the five-fold called the ministry of perfection the Melchisedek Priesthood . GODMEN, plural! Looks like we have our future all mapped out and Jesus has told Jones he is not coming for the church in the next 50 years. BOB. BJ: I didnt have trouble seeing the devils at alland this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. Not to be concerned, the more practice they have inside the church the better they will get at it. At the age of 13 or 15 (two different accounts), he supposedly is taken to heaven, and a guide who appears looking like red sunglasses, protects him from Gods glory, saying, this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest., 20 years of debauchery, drinking and demonization led him to Topeka Veterans Hospital mental ward, where, on drugs, this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. These were young family men. This will be the end generation that is foreknown and predestinated to inherit all things. A prominent figure in the New Apostolic Reformatio n, Jones was the most controversial of the ' Kansas City Prophets .'. Brother Cloud lives in South Asia where he has been a church planting missionary since 1979. February 27, 2023 . He was not, and I emphasize not, asked to leave our church. I listened to your tape earlier; and this past Sunday someone gave me a copy of your letter to Mike Bickle of April 4. I didnt have cancer. Being interviewed by Rick Joyner , he says that God and the angels have their hands cuffed, and it's up to us to speak things into existence because God . Watch out, as there will be a false prophet in your midst in the early days. By the way, we discovered it; so there is no mystery about that. Ismiled and said nothing, I even made several attempts at unity only to find that I had been prophesied over by another of the resident prophets. Bob was observing the people in these lines. Because Jones was hit by lightening he developed Golden Senses, an ability to feel in his hands and arms sensations that would signal various spiritual realities. Jones is whom Todd Bentley looks to as a senior prophet and mentor. Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. 3) Turn from . Change). I didnt haveever any trouble seem the devil!When theyd take over me, Id go completely wackyjust lookin for trouble. . And they will be young people: they wont be old. The next day we got a call from another young man in the Navy, and he went to Swope Park with a couple of Black Muslims and he got drunk and he tried to swim in the lagoon out there and he drowned. (2 Peter 1:16-21) Once you buy the package of believing these people have a special place with and word from God, you are their prey and will be brought under their witchcraft and control (2 Peter 2:19). . Prophecy is primarily for speak(ing) to men for their edification, encouragement, and comfort. The more you understand the reality and the presence, the more you can acceptthe presence of these healing violet flame angels,the closer, they will come and the greater their strength and power ofthat sacred fire wrapped around you (I Am healing decrees, Saint Germaine press 1976 p.6). Men that looked like drugs because that was the god they served on earth In hell you will serve the god that you served on earth.. If you talk poverty, youll have it. Bob Jones University regrets handling of sex assault allegations after ex-pastor's arrest. The 2030s will reveal the family of God. I did not know until after I had sensed an uneasiness in my spirit about Mike, that Mike was the pastor of the church. And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. He was not, and I emphasize not, asked to leave our church. magazine said: About a year later, after the church had become affiliated with John Wimbers Vineyard network of churches, Jones admitted to a moral failure and was removed from his leadership position. According to Bob Jones when he was 13- The first time I ever seen the white horse was when an angel called Gabriel was riding. The police who visited their apartment following their deaths reported finding their Bibles open on the table from their quiet time that morning.Bob Jones did not bring a prophetic word at that funeral about additional people dying. Things that we encourage you to share include the audio sermons, O Timothy magazine, FBIS articles, and the free eVideos and free eBooks. Our primary goal with the FBIS is to provide material to assist preachers in the edification and protection of the churches. OFFERINGS can be mailed or made online with with Visa, Mastercard, Discover, or Paypal. 100 years ago the Holy Spirit was revealed. And they said it, Forget it, we are not getting rid of our sin., BJ: That motorcycle was part of their sin. You cursed them. Whats interesting is that this time revival is happening at Asbury College. You find out what your blood is and what you can do.Bob Jones 2/95 Vancouver, Canada Vineyard, (http://thequickenedwordcommunity.com/cgi-bin/members/cforums.cgi?forumid= 112372859729293postid=9990224019736 action=messagesthreadid=9990224019736). Christ gave only one legitimate cause, and that is fornication, yet the two said the split involves no third party on either side.. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Thus, the tales these prophets speak of from their own imagination are called tails by God.The Church has accepted the teaching of prophets that are not speaking the truth. cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people. Jones statements are not only unbiblical but cryptic except to the initiated. Many years later is when he entered into our world. Amen! Youre to bring them to a place to allow My Spirit to rule in their life where they can begin to set the Church on the proper foundations, as they will. And its going to be those that have that earring in and hear what God is saying. The only fire I see started like this is what Jesus described when Satan fell as lightning. Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain, who were known as the 'Kansas City Prophets,' were all buried on 2/22 This win is on a palindrome day of 02/02/2020 (hasn't happened for 909 years). (LogOut/ Ford wrote his testimony of the affair, but it was sealed by the courts after Crouch sued to have the matter squelched. Sometimes more, sometimes three or four I remember one time in 1984, Bob came to me and he said, Boy, I dont know what is wrongam I in sin, can you see anything? I said, No He said, Boy, the Lords cut me off. He said, quote, unquote, The Lord just shut the whole thing down. I said, What are you talking about? He said, He just shut the whole thing down. He said, I havent had visions in two nights! Two nights! Visions and Revelations.). You find out Who your Daddy is, you find out who you are. I have, however, heard from quite a number of our people who used to attend the Fellowship. A statement issued by Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, and Mike Bickel said: Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration, which the three of us would oversee. 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