Why hasnt it changed before now? That so it was already a conversation that started to happen when I start developing the film with my producing partner. And, you know, being harassed and all kinds of things going on, being not listened to, talked down to, all that stuff. And then I had to play the best baseball player anyone has ever seen hold a bat. And then maybe five years later, another movie comes out with a female star. There's far fewer movies with a female lead character. And her actions led to an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors. Russian DONAHUE: They tend to deny the problem after seeing the film. And two and a half years later, I was a semifinalist for the Olympic trials. GROSS: And so it's a kind of - I think at the time, people were comparing it to Butch Cassidy. . And everything gets in the way of that, every possible thought you have, every different circumstance. - because it was a big hit. And so I did. And it was just, you know, doing a video with a casting assistant. A lot of negative reaction in the press too like, oh, no, the world is ruined now. After feeling that she was shut out of directing because she's a woman, she became an activist. But so I think that will change and I think it will impact society, that life will imitate art. Author interview. Women are socialized to go along with the dominant patriarch. So its kind of working. GROSS: My guests are actor Geena Davis and director Maria Giese. I think the big advantage was that people who make kids entertainment do it because they care about kids. 2015, Documentary, 1h 29m. Recorded by CBC Ideasafter the historic December 2015 Paris Climate meeting, in this lecture, Naomi analyzed the failures of that Agreement and discussed ways to move forward from it. Transcript A new documentary explores how women in Hollywood are pushing for more representation in front of and behind the camera. GROSS: So the EEOC has been conducting an investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors. Global Release 2020, 2023 Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media. The books exploration of climate change from the perspective of how capitalism functions produces fresh insights and its examination of the interconnectedness between our relationship with nature and the creation of better, fairer societies presents a radical proposal. Against the backdrop of Greece in crisis, a powerful social movement rises. Maria Giese is a director who felt shut out of directing because she's a woman. namely, a modicum of hope for the future A work of startling force, exhaustive reporting, and telling anecdote . We can reflect the future now and it will make it happen. The extraordinary detail and richness of the cinematography inThis Changes Everythingprovides an epic canvas for this exploration of the greatest challenge of our time. And that was an extraordinary triumph. Look at what FX did. And they didn't ask - after I read the part, they didn't ask to see my bathing suit. And I was horrified. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Geena Davis is also an executive producer of the film. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. Whats your first name? And you try really hard to, like, throw him off of you. . JENNIFER LAWRENCE: Its our time to have wage equality once and for all and equal . What have they each done? DAVIS: They do. You know, God forbid you complain about your salary not being equal or being harassed or mistreated or discriminated against because they'll just get somebody else, you know? Directed by Avi Lewis, and inspired by Naomi Kleins international non-fiction bestsellerThis Changes Everything, the film presents seven powerful portraits of communities on the front lines, from Montanas Powder River Basin to the Alberta Tar Sands, from the coast of South India to Beijing and beyond. He's just decided that that's what he's going to do. I'm talking about family-rated films. I decided that I would try becoming a model first because, at that time, Christie Brinkley and Lauren Hutton were being offered parts in movies. GIESE: You know, I did a lot of script writing and doctoring and - but no, no primetime TV shows, even though I observed for hundreds of hours on major TV shows like Dick Wolf's "Law & Order.". And why does that matter? DONAHUE: But also, Reese Witherspoon says in the film that sometimes she would go on set and it would be 115 men and she would be the only woman. Accuracy and availability may vary. And this is in every sector of society, its the same story. Polish And Kim and I are sitting there going like, well, respectfully, I dont think you know what youre talking about. You were working with Dustin Hoffman. In the course of this struggle, they help ignite a nationwide movement. Danish And very quickly, the coaches were saying, you know, you have a lot of untapped athletic ability. The women have guns. Romanian And I was kind of good at all of it. And when we looked at - when we first looked at TV shows, kids - the ratio of male to female characters on kids programs, specifically made for them, had the worst ratio of male to female characters. MARTIN: I think it was Maya Angelou who said you cant be what you cant see. This documentary takes a deep look at gender disparity in Hollywood through the eyes of well-known actresses and female filmmakers. All rights reserved. Director Tom Donahue Stars Reese Witherspoon Mira Nair Turkish . Female. And I started to do research. Thelma & Louise was supposed to have done it. Polish Her work led to an ongoing EEOC, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors, as well as an ACLU campaign against discrimination. For the first thing I showed her, there were profoundly more male characters than female, and it was aimed at two-year- olds. Filmed over 211 shoot days in nine countries and five continents over four years,This Changes Everythingis an epic attempt to re-imagine the vast challenge of climate change. But were not hearing womens voices or seeing the stories told through the female gaze when there are so few female directors. Running time: 1 hour 36 minutes. And I think its because what I decided to do was I wanted the research so I could go directly to the creators and share it with them in a private and very friendly way because I knew they didnt know what they were doing. In 2004, she founded the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media to get the actual data comparing the number and types of male and female roles and to use that data to convince the industry of the need for change. Swedish Suddenly, they could see what they were doing, and weve yet to leave any meeting where somebody doesnt say, you just changed my project. Klein argues that the changes to our relationship with nature and one another that are required to respond to the climate crisis humanely should not be viewed as grim penance, but rather as a kind of gifta catalyst to transform broken economic and cultural priorities and to heal long-festering historical wounds. And she demonstrates precisely why the market has notand cannotfix the climate crisis but will instead make things worse, with ever more extreme and ecologically damaging extraction methods, accompanied by rampant disaster capitalism. Italian I want to ask you about "Thelma & Louise." Melachrini, a housewife in Northern Greece where economic crisis is being used to justify mining and drilling projects that threaten the mountains, seas, and tourism economy. A star-studded documentary about gender inequality in film and TV is equal parts history lesson and constructive criticism. Norwegian Catalan Told first-hand by some of Hollywoods leading voices behind and in front of the camera, THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING is the award-winning 2019 feature-length documentary that uncovers what is beneath one of the most confounding dilemmas in the entertainment industry the underrepresentation and misrepresentation of women. French Presenting portraits of communities on the front lines, This Changes Everything is an epic attempt to re-imagine the vast challenge of climate change. In 2004, she founded the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media. DONAHUE: And then Patricia Arquette got up at the Oscars and demanded equal pay. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. Bulgarian When did things start to slow down in your acting career? And I think most people and certainly I did assume that kids entertainments are harmless, that they're - they might even be good for kids. Where's her bathing suit stuff? Unlike many works about the climate crisis, this is not a film that tries to scare the audience into action: it aims to empower. Yet we can seize this existential crisis to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. Buy now. Was that because you thought that was the way you could break in? to unsuccessfully sue Warner Bros. and Columbia Pictures for discrimination). Well, Tom, talk a little about what the problem is if you would. MARTIN: But there are a number of women who are interviewed in this film whose careers have been damaged by speaking out. Klein and those impassioned protesters provide something that has been in short supply in the predecessors There's also people like Ryan Murphy, who has that initiative called Half, where he just decided and announced that half of his cast and crew were always going to be female. And I'd like to see if I could do that. Now we will see so many more female buddy pictures, female road movies or whatever and movies about female friendship. Now, this changes everything. GIESE: Well, I understood very quickly that the numbers in and of themselves inferred violations of Title VII. A right wing think tank provides its view that the climate change issue needs to be dealt with through market forces. Climate change isnt just another issue to be neatly filed between taxes and health care. And then I saw it everywhere. It was night and day, where before, they might say, hey, "Beetlejuice" or something. And a buddy movies are always men's movies. MARTIN: So Geena, how do you stay in it though? So at 41, I took it up and then became absolutely obsessed, as I do with things. And that's when you really are tested with your mental abilities because once you have a really good shot, your job is to recreate it exactly and - every time. Theres a lot of talk about change and theres a lot more content being made but a lot of the diversity that happens in content is happening at the lower pay levels. So I never thought about it again. This sudden change in how people reacted when they recognized me was very, very pronounced. GIESE: Yes, Title VII, which was written into law in 1964 by President Johnson. So it was so horrifying to me that we would be doing this to kids that I decided I had to try to do something. So theres something really deep and systemic going on. So they were driven out of the unions. She is an executive producer of and is featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about how women in Hollywood are pushing for more representation in front of and behind the camera. Promotional materials, trailers & welcome video. . GROSS: Geena Davis is featured in and is an executive producer of the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about the campaign for better representation of women in front of and behind the camera in movies and TV. As the staggering statistics on gender parity continue to demonstrate, though, not much has changed. That's why we've added a new "Diverse Representations" section to our reviews that will be rolling out on an ongoing basis. GROSS: In "A League Of Their Own." When you purchase a ticket for an independently reviewed film through our site, we earn an affiliate commission. DAVIS: Well, no, no. Here it is. (Interestingly, the film was directed by a man, Tom Donahue. German You had a small role. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. I get to have opinions, I get to be smart. The two opposing viewpoints can be seen in two western society examples, the first concerning the Alberta oil sands, and the second fossil fuel energy production and transportation in what is traditional Montana farmland. The result is the most momentous and contentious environmental book since Silent Spring. When Dani Arnold broke Ueli Steck's speed record climbing the Eiger in 2011, it sparked a duel between them across the six great north faces of the Alps. Dutch And he just does it. Geena Davis and Maria Giese, welcome to FRESH AIR. Well, we call the film This Changes Everything, because its about kind of why that doesnt happen. Lucky for everybody then that opening up such spaces is exactly what Klein does best., This is the best book about climate change in a very long timein large part because its about much more. Greek You know, they just determined to do it, and they're very creative and they make it happen. Like competing - if you're nervous, your shot's going to be off. This Changes Everything. 2019 | Maturity Rating: TV-MA | 1h 35m | Documentary Films. Chinese Complex You know, I mean, both are kind of unattainable. DAVIS: Well, I was astounded that it happened. DAVIS: Well, it was completely random in some ways. MARTIN: Geena Davis, Tom Donahue, thank you so much for talking to us. And she doesnt know its her period because she had never been taught that by her mother. And so thats what I did and, in fact, its proven that theyre incredibly grateful and horrified and embarrassed. a scene from This Changes Everything, the documentary. But the biggest reaction of all was the press saying, like the title of the movie, this is going to change everything. I didn't want to try any sports because I was - I call it physically shy. The film is a Canada-United States coproduction. A film that brings our peril into focus and what we might learn from despair. MARTIN: about women in Hollywood and the underrepresentation of women in Hollywood? My understanding is they don't make their investigation public. 'This Changes Everything' Review: Compelling Documentary Tackles Hollywood Gender Inequality Head-On By Pete Hammond July 18, 2019 4:17pm At one point in the powerful and fascinating new. . Directed by Avi Lewis, and inspired by Naomi Klein's international non-fiction bestseller This Changes Everything, the film presents seven powerful portraits of communities on the front lines, from Montana's Powder River Basin to the Alberta Tar Sands, from the coast of South India to Beijing and beyond. makes a muscular case for global warming as the defining, cross-sectional issue of our era. Book & Film Study Guide. And I think thats but also part of it is that my peers and I felt like you cannot complain about any of this because they wont hire you. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everyone, listen up, please. Not rated. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. That was the first time where I was ever like, I guess, men dont see us women equal in this industry. MARTIN: In fact, there is a clip in the film where you talk about the fact that representation in actually entertainment can actually matter in the real world. You know, what we tend to do when we don't succeed is to blame ourselves, and women were so siloed off in this industry we really didn't have any means of communication. DONAHUE: Well, two things. Actress Geena Davis rallies Meryl Streep, Shonda Rhimes, Reese Witherspoon and others in this . And she documents the inspiring movements that have already begun this process: communities that are not just refusing to be sites of further fossil fuel extraction but are building the next, regeneration-based economies right now. It looks like we don't have any synopsis for this title yet. MORETZ: The biggest part of the movie is when she gets her period for the first time in the shower. This is FRESH AIR. And then Susan Sarandon comes out. Greek This Changes Everything Official trailer Did we miss something on diversity? So they looked east to the banks to basically the patriarchal systems in the east and so they created the studio system in the west. What were you looking for and what did you come away with? I mean dont you just want to throw your shoes at the screen? NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Will this film change everything? MARTIN: To that point, heres a scene from the film which speaks with that with Kimberly Pierce, the director, and Chloe Grace Moretz. GROSS: And I just think it's so interesting that we're having this conversation about women's empowerment and inclusion of women, and the first part of your career revolves around being in your underwear (laughter). And, of course, it's all a joke. Your first movie role, "Tootsie," you're in your underwear in the film. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They dont care that Im black. So here was my hero calling himself a feminist. In 2012, my archery coach noticed that when both Brave and The Hunger Games came out, suddenly the percentage of girls taking up archery shot up 105 percent, higher than adult men. Can we play that? The New York Times Book Review called it The most momentous and contentious environmental book since Silent Spring.. She's got a handgun, pulls it on him, asks him to apologize. . And hopefully, young boys will see that a male-directed this and think I can do that too. After the release of This Changes Everything book and film, Naomi went on a sold out tour to speak to audiences worldwide. Turkish This is the 21st century. Like I think a lot of people have become familiar with the whole question of representation on screen. DAVIS: Oh, I don't know which one you mean. What is the connection? Netflix | Apple TV | Amazon Video | Vudu | FandangoNOW | Kanopy | Hoopla, Directed by: Tom Donahue Jyothi, a matriarch in Andhra Pradesh, India who sings sweetly and battles fiercely along with her fellow villagers, fighting a proposed coal-fired power plant that will destroy a life-giving wetland. In the lawless land of Gando, fierce bandits will stop at nothing to fight for their precious homeland and loved ones even if it means life or death. But that was my plan. Harvey Weinstein, of course, comes to mind. And so obviously you only come when you're shooting, but I came every day at the beginning of the day (laughter) and grabbed my chair and put it next to Sydney and sat next to him all day, every day, making the movie. . Bring me my tiny violin. And I couldn't get the numbers on women in commercials, which is the most lucrative category of directing, but I spoke to some big executives in the commercial world who told me that the number was less than 1%. Japanese And it's a buddy movie. Ukrainian, Arabic DAVIS: Well, thats what I was saying about earlier, it is a different time now that you actually can talk about these things and not suffer repercussions. So let me just play that clip. The catastrophic effects of climate change are viewed through the lens of those in the US northeast coast who suffered through Hurricane Sandy. DAVIS: Hopefully not. And I went, and they said, wear a bathing suit under your clothes because if you do well at the reading, they'll ask to see you in your bathing suit. Geena Davis is also an executive producer of the film. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was very lucky because Greys Anatomy was developed under the network presence. MARTIN: Did you think it was as bad as it is? Co-Producers: Jessicya Materano, Robin Kelleher The main thing that's very different is now it's completely OK to talk about this stuff. And there is also no human resources department that these women can go to. GEENA DAVIS: Well, it was pretty dramatic. And I was really worried about coming off as if I didn't know anything, that people would be saying, she doesn't even know where to stand or what to do. DAVIS: In "A League Of Their Own," yeah. Film schools are now half female. Also with us is director Maria Giese, who's featured in the film, too. You used to make a movie a year. So why does the behind the camera representation matter so much? They're both featured in the new documentary about that campaign called "This Changes Everything.". MARTIN: So you can see it with kids entertainment? And Im like, yay, I cant wait. If she can see it, she can be it. Terms Privacy Policy For Our Members Access, All rights reserved. So I decided I wanted to take up a sport in the real-life way and not the movie version. GROSS: Yes, you're not fazed by seeing Dustin Hoffman walk in because you think he's really a woman. Tweets by NaomiAKlein. Nothing is certain. 10 Video Games That Need a Live Action Adaptation, 2023's Most Anticipated Sequels, Prequels, and Spin-offs. . She braids together the science, psychology, geopolitics, economics, ethics and activism that shape the climate question. When you have 150 men on set and one woman, how is that woman protected? A group of disillusioned young women have disappeared. Several women serve as executive producers, including Davis.). Executive Producers: Geena Davis, Steve Edwards, Regina Scully, Simone Pero, Madeline Di Nonno, Jennie Peters, Patty Casby, Ku-Ling Yurman So I had a lot of training. DAVIS: Well, I definitely see a big shift happening in Hollywood in the past couple of years since #MeToo and Time's Up. And I had spent so much time in a field where you're measured by people's judgment, you know, where, you know, you're approved of by others' opinions rather than factual merit. I mean you know. Hilary Weston Writers Trust Prize for Nonfiction. 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