With the rifle zeroed at 36 yards, I can reasonably expect to hit a BC-Zone target out to 300 yards without excessive hold-overs. Peasy. Especially with a 7.5 Just about any self defense situation is gonna be well within that range anyway. Not sure how big the Holo red dot is. You shoot within an inch without making any scope adjustments from 0-300 yards. Lets just say Im going to use the same numbers as the 10.5 barrel. If this proves to be accurate this would be very close to the 36 yard zero for the 5.56 round. Thanks. This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. 1.7K 231 gunksmtn1216 6 days ago I've found a company that offers a 25 yard zero target that will put you at a 36 yard zero. Temp was in low 40s, but windchill made it much colder. 40 yard zero, than anything inside of 40 back to zero will be no more than the offset from the bore axis to the sights. So many abbreviations on this sight it gets confusing on some stuff. If you want to sight in at 100 yards - then just have the shots be 3.0 inches high. In that trajectory chart above, I'm a max of 1.4 mils high at 100 yards, 1.7 mils low at 450 yards, and dead-on at 300 yards, as far as holdovers. Cons: Not ideal for a red dot zero. I have an AR-10 and a Bolt action, that need to be zeroed. Has anyone used this 36yd zero? Ian is a life-long firearms enthusiast and competition shooter regularly participating in everything from rimfire to long-range precision matches. Editors Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The near/far zero concept (25/300, 50/200, and now 10/50/200) is more like an improved field boresight with live fire than an actual zeroing method. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. But this should be a very close estimation. Pros: Your largest hold under is about 1.5 at 125 yards which in my book is point and shoot. This article will be very simple with lots of pictures. But it will stay inside of 5" all the way out to 300 yards and then drop 5 inches at 350 and about 13 inches at 400 yards. All rights reserved. Thanks again and hope you get some rest. The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately -.72 below your point of aim. UPDATE 3: I receive multiple emails weekly about this target and its effectiveness with various other calibers and rifles. I shot a tight group at 25 and the strangest thing happened at 100. The 36-yard zero is a versatile option, providing an optimal balance between close-range and long-range shooting. The black represents your point of aim. The original non-tapered heavy barrel is 22 long and has a 1/9 twist. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs. Past 200 it falls fast. All the explaining I'm not going to do is in this video. I saw that video a while back and messed around w/ the 36 yard zero. Red dots are for speed not precision. Tom, with a 100 yard zero, POI will be about 2.2 below POA at 10 yards if my calculations are correct. Other Calibers may be used for different purposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. It works well because of the compressed distance for which it is designed to be used. You can also use the top circles as a 200yard zero when aiming at the red squares at 100 yards. Does everyone need a $500-$750 red dot sight? Springfield Armory recommends you seek qualified and competent training from a Oops, there's been an error. Your data will put me in the ballpark. Click the Go To Forum Thread link below to jump in and discuss this article and much more! Largest hold under is 2.75 at 125 yards. 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Luke 22:36. Only skimmed the comments but some of y'all are missing the point there is no 50 vs 36 vs 25 discussion, they all accomplish different things especially with different barrel length and ammo combinations. Never rely on a ballistic calculator, rely on the data your rifle gives you from actually shooting! In both exercises I didnt feel I had to work harder to get hits using one zero or the other. The 36 yard zero holds lots of promise and is something I will likely play with some more at some time, but as of now my 1X optics are all zeroed at 50 yards and anything magnified is zeroed at 100 yards. The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization. Using iron sights the SKS manual calls for a 100 meter zero prone with just a sling. 36 yard zero or 25 yard danielosborn1994 Feb 11, 2023 The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana Member Benefits: Fewer Ads! Breezy as all get out; torso target and the plastic uprights kept rocking forward as wind was coming from 12 o'clock. It's nothing you can't figure out with a ballistic calculator. Granted no bullet weight value was given so I'm guessing he was using xm193. Remember that the hold-overs and hold-unders are in MOA. /r/ar15 is here for your favorite black gun links, build pics, questions and other tactical or practical information. I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. I would go with a 50yd and be happy. 2023 Jerking the Trigger. The USMC method sees you zero at 36-yards for the initial intersection and that gets you all the way out to 300-yards. Gets a little sketch with slow bullets. But if the range of your target could be anywhere out to 300 yards, your best choice among those shown is the 36 yard zero. You must log in or register to reply here. 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In the offset mount do you do a offset zero since it isnt directly over bore? Ballistic Advantage is one of the household names in AR15 barrel manufacturing. I'm guessing that distance doesn't work for my AR10 due to the different ballistic factors. How many grains for the projectile and what ballistic coefficient, or do you just want those the same? The 36/300 zero is where its at for irons or red dots. Battle Zero for 5.56 55gr 325 yards equals 297 meters or 300 meters. Basically, the 5.56 AR15 is a self-defense weapon so I would stick with the 50 yards zero. Pull a new AR out of the case, peer through some sights, and one of the first questions will invariably be What distance should I zero this stuff at? I could easily regale you with ballistic charts and simply say that at x distance youll be y inches high and thats why its better than z, but that would be a little disingenuous. t of aim at 25 yards, which puts them at roughly point of aim at 100 yards because of how bullet trajectory works. However, for practicalitys sake youll want a zero that is essentially point-and-shoot within your desired effective range. Paul Howe has a similar method, but his is to start at 7 yards and its good out to 300. it depends on how high your sights are above the bore if using stock ka2 (carry handle ) this will be zero somewhere around 300. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If everything goes well with your initial work at 10 yards, you can then use the black dot to check your zero at 50 or 200 yards since it should be relatively free of impacts. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This is then a 190 yard zero and -3.0 inches at 220 yards. Shawn is correct based on this analysis. Dead simple to use at 25 yard range. The overlaid circles in the included illustrations help to visualize what that 3 MOA extreme spread translates to on a target at a given distance to get beyond arbitrary ballistic figures. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} If you can't see well enough to zero at 36 yards then there is no advice that is going to help. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} Easier softer ways avail us nothing. Basically, the 5.56 AR15 is a self-defense weapon so I would stick with the 50 yards zero. Thus giving you 5-8 hold-under until about 225 yards. Even though I dont recommend the 25 yard zero, Im starting here because it is suggested so often, but is also often misrepresented as a 25/300 yard zero. I cant tell you which zero distance is the best one; thats really going to be up to you, your skill level and the set-up of your rifle. With the 36 yard zero being fairly non standard should I just avoid it due to most ranges not offering that particular known distance? This kind of medium range shooting should be easy if you zero at 100 yards and then adjust your elevation for a 200-yard shot. 1 Quote CENTURIATOR Banned 347 Location:Saint Louis Posted November 14, 2018 I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. 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Nice work. If you are shooting that far you won't be able to see the target very well anyway with an unmagnified optic. You need at least a 2MOA to use it at distance much. I have used the method so much that I created a target for my own use to support the process. If not shooting anything beyond 250 yards, then the 50 yrd zero is the best option for most people. You may remember Frank Proctors method for achieving a 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards with your AR-15 that was mentioned here a few months ago. It is a very fast way to zero which is very convenient for me since many carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. Everything is a holdover. Tungsten penetrator ). After careful consideration and watching lots of videos I decided for type of shooting I do 10 yards the correct distance for me to zero. One suggestion. If you are planning on shooting the majority of time within 125 yards I dont see a benefit of a 36/300 zero and actually see some decent minuses for it. This statement (and others like it) is one of the reasons 5.56 gets a bad rap. I'll take that. The same concept applies to Marines. Sight in at fifty yards so that most of the group (5 -10 shots) falls in the lower half of the dot. Primary Arms SLx 1x Prism Gen 2- Can it Replace a Red Dot? By 200 yards you're already needing to compensate for bullet drop. Ian Kenney served as an infantryman in the U.S. Army just after 9/11 and is a veteran of the Global War on Terror. It drops the least across 300 yards (8.57"). A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSRs, & high-speed gear. Has any one had experience with the 36 yard zero? Keep in mind that, at 100 yards, your point of impact will be above the black dot if your point of aim is the black dot. Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. ._1aTW4bdYQHgSZJe7BF2-XV{display:-ms-grid;display:grid;-ms-grid-columns:auto auto 42px;grid-template-columns:auto auto 42px;column-gap:12px}._3b9utyKN3e_kzVZ5ngPqAu,._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px}._21RLQh5PvUhC6vOKoFeHUP:before{content:"";margin-right:4px;color:#46d160}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{display:inline-block;word-break:break-word}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-weight:500}._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK,._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-size:12px;line-height:16px}._244EzVTQLL3kMNnB03VmxK{font-weight:400;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-top:13px;margin-bottom:2px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO ._22W-auD0n8kTKDVe0vWuyK{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;margin-right:4px;margin-left:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y{border-radius:4px;box-sizing:border-box;height:21px;width:21px}._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(2),._2xkErp6B3LSS13jtzdNJzO .je4sRPuSI6UPjZt_xGz8y:nth-child(3){margin-left:-9px} Therefore, to hit the center of the target at 100 yards, or any distance for that matter, the rifle has to have a small upward angle. What is the other one? I am 75 yo and I can not read the gray very well, really strains my eyes. Sorry for my ignorance, can you explain the large target waterline test? Pick whichever one you want to memorize the holds for. 1.9 should get you close for the typical height over bore of an AR-15 optic. The AR I have the red dot on is mostly just for home defense and a truck gun. Other Calibers may be used for differentpurposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. JMO YMMV Lancer L5 AWM Registered Joined May 26, 2018 4,694 Posts Reaction score 12,908 Go with a 50 and be done with it. 2023 Springfield Armory. Drives me nuts when I have to zero a rifle for 3-gun and the longest range I can get too quickly is a scant 15 yards. 36 is a good combat zero(where just hitting center mass is the goal) but definitely not the best for a precision/long range setup. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} All that being said, the 50 yard zero continues to be one of my favorite zeroing schemes because its versatile, proven and effective. If you KNOW you're going to be shooting targets at exactly 100 yards, then the 100 yard zero (obviously) or even the 25 yard zero are ideal. certified instructor prior to handling any firearm and be sure to read your owners manual. Currently, this is probably the most common AR configuration going, shooting the most common ammunition available. Also, a - means hold under and a + means to hold over. Great zero for shooting steel silhouettes for a target. I prefer 200 yard zero for anything meant to shoot beyond 200 yards. Thisis why you hear people talking (and arguing) about different zeroes such as a 50/200 a 25/300 zero and a 36/300 yard zero. Sidearm Sunday: Is .30 Super Carry Worth it? For better or worse, the 36 yard zero is basically a hybrid that flattens out the St. Louis Arch of a trajectory the 25 yard zero creates while still providing a decent maximum range. they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. To print the target, click the last link and be sure to follow the instructions on printing. Makes perfect sense, thanks for the help! /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/You need to do the maths for your barrel and your ammos; plug your observed fps with your load into a ballistic program with various zero yardages and you should be able to find that perfect zero distance. Your rifle zero is only correct at two distances. 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